Comments on: Georgia: U.S. Moral Bankruptcy http://blog.oneworld.am/2008/08/11/891/ News, Photography, Blogs & Analysis Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:22:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Paul http://blog.oneworld.am/2008/08/11/891/#comment-7836 Paul Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:12:16 +0000 http://blog.oneworld.am/2008/08/11/891/#comment-7836 Georgia is learning Armenia's lesson from a century ago about relying on the west. The west is not reliable and will offer you up as a sacrificial lamb if need be. Sure America looked like a great partner 5 years ago before Iraq really got going and America overextended itself, but now it is in no position to defend the puppet state it propped up in Georgia. There have been numerous blunders from the west on this one- hypocritical on numerous accounts as the blogger mentions. Besides invading Iraq itself an important piece of the puzzle was the Kosovo precedent. Everyone saw this coming, by pushing Kosovo independence so hard the US was just setting themselves up for this Georgian failure. Russia set the trap to which Georgia responded by invading S.O. Now it can at least half-convincingly portray itself as defending an ethnic majority from its tyrannical state. Russia said over Kosovo that states should NOT be broken up over ethnic lines but the US said screw you and did it anyway. Russia almost has no choice here but to say ok well if you say ethnic minorities must be protected from the encroachment of their overlord states than we must do what we can to protect S.O. The west was asking for this with their Kosovarian arrogance and are now powerless to stop it. Georgia thought it could do what it wants with the west's backing but probably didn't see this corner coming which they are now boxed into with no good way out. The west will have to stand back as Georgia makes painful concessions to avoid greater disaster and will not be the same. Now I know why all those Turkish-Armenian reconciliation movements got going recently, the west saw this coming and needed a viable pipeline outlet. I was being told by foreign affairs people months ago that Georgia was no longer seen as a reliable outlet and the west was looking elsewhere (namely Armenia because where else?) and needed to push along peace with Turkey to make this a reality. Perhaps they had predicted/saw this coming (I guess it wasn't too hard to if you knew what was going on) and were trying to get a jump on it. We now have to see how this effects Turkey-Armenia, Armenia-Azerbaijan, and Armenia's geopolitical value which I can only assume will go up at least a bit with Georgia out of the picture for the time being. I also wonder how this will effect BTC pipeline and the new railroad Azerbaijan has been crowing about. Georgia is learning Armenia’s lesson from a century ago about relying on the west. The west is not reliable and will offer you up as a sacrificial lamb if need be. Sure America looked like a great partner 5 years ago before Iraq really got going and America overextended itself, but now it is in no position to defend the puppet state it propped up in Georgia. There have been numerous blunders from the west on this one- hypocritical on numerous accounts as the blogger mentions. Besides invading Iraq itself an important piece of the puzzle was the Kosovo precedent. Everyone saw this coming, by pushing Kosovo independence so hard the US was just setting themselves up for this Georgian failure. Russia set the trap to which Georgia responded by invading S.O. Now it can at least half-convincingly portray itself as defending an ethnic majority from its tyrannical state. Russia said over Kosovo that states should NOT be broken up over ethnic lines but the US said screw you and did it anyway. Russia almost has no choice here but to say ok well if you say ethnic minorities must be protected from the encroachment of their overlord states than we must do what we can to protect S.O. The west was asking for this with their Kosovarian arrogance and are now powerless to stop it. Georgia thought it could do what it wants with the west’s backing but probably didn’t see this corner coming which they are now boxed into with no good way out. The west will have to stand back as Georgia makes painful concessions to avoid greater disaster and will not be the same.
Now I know why all those Turkish-Armenian reconciliation movements got going recently, the west saw this coming and needed a viable pipeline outlet. I was being told by foreign affairs people months ago that Georgia was no longer seen as a reliable outlet and the west was looking elsewhere (namely Armenia because where else?) and needed to push along peace with Turkey to make this a reality. Perhaps they had predicted/saw this coming (I guess it wasn’t too hard to if you knew what was going on) and were trying to get a jump on it. We now have to see how this effects Turkey-Armenia, Armenia-Azerbaijan, and Armenia’s geopolitical value which I can only assume will go up at least a bit with Georgia out of the picture for the time being. I also wonder how this will effect BTC pipeline and the new railroad Azerbaijan has been crowing about.

]]> By: lkdtrf8ghu329o http://blog.oneworld.am/2008/08/11/891/#comment-7827 lkdtrf8ghu329o Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:33:49 +0000 http://blog.oneworld.am/2008/08/11/891/#comment-7827 As an American your egotism is delusional. Georgia is a soverign country and is responsible for her own actions. If an ally asks the US for military training should the US withold it because their ally might use it someday and get hurt? The US is not the center of the universe that Americans like to think it is. As an American your egotism is delusional. Georgia is a soverign country and is responsible for her own actions.

If an ally asks the US for military training should the US withold it because their ally might use it someday and get hurt?

The US is not the center of the universe that Americans like to think it is.

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