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		<title>By: Armenia Election Monitor 2008 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Election Notes</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1273</link>
		<dc:creator>Armenia Election Monitor 2008 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Election Notes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with many bloggers reacting negatively to signs held up at Levon Ter Petrosian&#8217;s most recent rally on Saturday likening him to a King, perhaps such concerns are very valid indeed. For the most part, the Ter [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] with many bloggers reacting negatively to signs held up at Levon Ter Petrosian&#8217;s most recent rally on Saturday likening him to a King, perhaps such concerns are very valid indeed. For the most part, the Ter [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik Krikorian</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1272</link>
		<dc:creator>Onnik Krikorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, it might actually have started long before -- but since 1998 when i've been here it was particularly noticeable after 1999.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, it might actually have started long before &#8212; but since 1998 when i&#8217;ve been here it was particularly noticeable after 1999.</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1271</link>
		<dc:creator>Onnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, simple. Society is apathetic and nobody can see anyone they want to rally behind. It's been the problem in Armenia since after the 1999 parliamentary election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, simple. Society is apathetic and nobody can see anyone they want to rally behind. It&#8217;s been the problem in Armenia since after the 1999 parliamentary election.</p>
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		<title>By: uzogh</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>uzogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Onnik,
My comment was not actually on leaflets. 
Hell with those leaflets.

Look on the situation a little bit broader - in late 80-ies, the taboo on LTP and Karabakh Committee was much more stronger, than now.
But rallies gather much more people.
Why the crowd now smaller, than in 80-ies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Onnik,<br />
My comment was not actually on leaflets.<br />
Hell with those leaflets.</p>
<p>Look on the situation a little bit broader - in late 80-ies, the taboo on LTP and Karabakh Committee was much more stronger, than now.<br />
But rallies gather much more people.<br />
Why the crowd now smaller, than in 80-ies?</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1269</link>
		<dc:creator>Onnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe that the turnout was smaller on Saturday. However, I will also say that in Komitas where I spend most of my time, there was not one leaflet that I saw. Indeed, it was only on mentioning to Aramazd, for example, about what I thought was a rally on Friday that he told me it was Saturday, so as I'm pretty much on the Internet a lot, the lack of leaflets and publicity made a difference for me.

Also, various people I know living in my area as well as other parts of the city did not know about the rally although this was one or two people, admittedly. Hard to say if the lack of leaflets in parts of the city made a difference, but I'd guess given the heavy saturation of leaflets in Komitas for the first two, and the total lack for the third, it must have.

Can't say, for sure, but it seems logical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe that the turnout was smaller on Saturday. However, I will also say that in Komitas where I spend most of my time, there was not one leaflet that I saw. Indeed, it was only on mentioning to Aramazd, for example, about what I thought was a rally on Friday that he told me it was Saturday, so as I&#8217;m pretty much on the Internet a lot, the lack of leaflets and publicity made a difference for me.</p>
<p>Also, various people I know living in my area as well as other parts of the city did not know about the rally although this was one or two people, admittedly. Hard to say if the lack of leaflets in parts of the city made a difference, but I&#8217;d guess given the heavy saturation of leaflets in Komitas for the first two, and the total lack for the third, it must have.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t say, for sure, but it seems logical.</p>
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		<title>By: uzogh</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1268</link>
		<dc:creator>uzogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mazd
There was no loyal press, loyal bloggers, loyal businessmen in late 80-ies.
But the crowd on rallies was a few times bigger, than now.

Rallies are stagnating not because of confiscated leaflets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mazd<br />
There was no loyal press, loyal bloggers, loyal businessmen in late 80-ies.<br />
But the crowd on rallies was a few times bigger, than now.</p>
<p>Rallies are stagnating not because of confiscated leaflets.</p>
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		<title>By: mazd</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>mazd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About leaflets and dissemination of info on the rally: guys, are you kidding? I mean, first of all, Vahag. The TV and radio were and are still inaccessible to the opposition. A couple of newspaper ads and leaflets that were either largely confiscated or torn out could not inform the large public about the event. 

Everyone knows this and this is obvious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About leaflets and dissemination of info on the rally: guys, are you kidding? I mean, first of all, Vahag. The TV and radio were and are still inaccessible to the opposition. A couple of newspaper ads and leaflets that were either largely confiscated or torn out could not inform the large public about the event. </p>
<p>Everyone knows this and this is obvious!</p>
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		<title>By: mazd</title>
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		<dc:creator>mazd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Onnik, thanks for the excellent photos.

One remark regarding the attendance: you know, later I figured out that it is incorrect to compare the last two rallies and the turnouts. Why? Simply because at the second rally the people were artificially (because of the stage constructed in the middle of the square) held back and they were standing really dense. Now when I look at the photo at http://forum.openarmenia.com/uploads//post-77-1197266791.jpg, I see that people stand really densely and that perhaps the turnout was almost similar...

Anyway, the stage was a confusing factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Onnik, thanks for the excellent photos.</p>
<p>One remark regarding the attendance: you know, later I figured out that it is incorrect to compare the last two rallies and the turnouts. Why? Simply because at the second rally the people were artificially (because of the stage constructed in the middle of the square) held back and they were standing really dense. Now when I look at the photo at <a href="http://forum.openarmenia.com/uploads//post-77-1197266791.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://forum.openarmenia.com/uploads//post-77-1197266791.jpg</a>, I see that people stand really densely and that perhaps the turnout was almost similar&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, the stage was a confusing factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1263</link>
		<dc:creator>Onnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unzipped also &lt;a href="http://unzipped.blogspot.com/2007/12/no-more-king-please.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;posts something&lt;/a&gt; on the King sign:

&lt;blockquote&gt;[...] I wish I would see less, or no… I wish I would not see at all posters of ‘Levon the King’ (like the one below) during his rallies. This is very reminiscent of the cult of personality we do not want to get close to. ‘King’ has no place in future democratic Armenia, as I would like to see my country. I hope people from Levon’s team will not encourage this sort of messages in future.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unzipped also <a href="http://unzipped.blogspot.com/2007/12/no-more-king-please.html" rel="nofollow">posts something</a> on the King sign:</p>
<blockquote><p>[&#8230;] I wish I would see less, or no… I wish I would not see at all posters of ‘Levon the King’ (like the one below) during his rallies. This is very reminiscent of the cult of personality we do not want to get close to. ‘King’ has no place in future democratic Armenia, as I would like to see my country. I hope people from Levon’s team will not encourage this sort of messages in future.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1259</link>
		<dc:creator>Onnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be honest, it was no different from the first rally (photographs &lt;a href="http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/10/27/levon-ter-petrosian-to-run-for-president/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;). The problem was with the second rally (photos &lt;a href="http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/11/18/armenia-return-of-the-king-president/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) when the situation was quite ridiculous.

What does occur to me now, however, is that while we're all left in front of Ter Petrosian, A1 Plus appear to be granted unrestricted access right next to the speakers.

Of course, we know the reason for that, but anyway. Still, main point is that the security redeemed themselves this time and Pashinian even made a point of seeing if I was happy with arrangements.

As I gestured to him in response to his thumbs up, and as I said to Aramazd later, I was. Thanks to them for listening and acting. That's something I was very pleased to discover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be honest, it was no different from the first rally (photographs <a href="http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/10/27/levon-ter-petrosian-to-run-for-president/" rel="nofollow">here</a>). The problem was with the second rally (photos <a href="http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/11/18/armenia-return-of-the-king-president/" rel="nofollow">here</a>) when the situation was quite ridiculous.</p>
<p>What does occur to me now, however, is that while we&#8217;re all left in front of Ter Petrosian, A1 Plus appear to be granted unrestricted access right next to the speakers.</p>
<p>Of course, we know the reason for that, but anyway. Still, main point is that the security redeemed themselves this time and Pashinian even made a point of seeing if I was happy with arrangements.</p>
<p>As I gestured to him in response to his thumbs up, and as I said to Aramazd later, I was. Thanks to them for listening and acting. That&#8217;s something I was very pleased to discover.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent photos Onnik. So it seems, that relaxing security around LTP a little bit and letting photographers come close is in the end quite beneficial for LTP himself, no? :)))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent photos Onnik. So it seems, that relaxing security around LTP a little bit and letting photographers come close is in the end quite beneficial for LTP himself, no? :)))</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Armenia: Election Monitor</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Armenia: Election Monitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Armenia Election Monitor 2008 post photographs of the latest rally by former president Levon Ter Petrosian ahead of the February vote. The blog says that there is speculation that the radical opposition is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Armenia Election Monitor 2008 post photographs of the latest rally by former president Levon Ter Petrosian ahead of the February vote. The blog says that there is speculation that the radical opposition is [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>Onnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addition: Over on The Armenian Observer &lt;a href="http://ditord.wordpress.com/2007/12/08/politics-the-week-in-the-armenian-blogosphere/#comments" rel="nofollow"&gt;one person comments that there were leaflets posted in places&lt;/a&gt; although in Komitas I saw none. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Vahagn Says:
December 9, 2007 at 3:37 pm

I saw dozens of posters ALL OVER the place. In fact, many of them are still up after the event. Also, some young people were handing out the posters with DVDs (I assume, with LTP’s earlier speeches) in the street. So, it was hard not to know when the rally was going to take place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

At any rate, the rally did attract less people this time and maybe the leaflets weren't the reason for that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addition: Over on The Armenian Observer <a href="http://ditord.wordpress.com/2007/12/08/politics-the-week-in-the-armenian-blogosphere/#comments" rel="nofollow">one person comments that there were leaflets posted in places</a> although in Komitas I saw none. </p>
<blockquote><p>Vahagn Says:<br />
December 9, 2007 at 3:37 pm</p>
<p>I saw dozens of posters ALL OVER the place. In fact, many of them are still up after the event. Also, some young people were handing out the posters with DVDs (I assume, with LTP’s earlier speeches) in the street. So, it was hard not to know when the rally was going to take place.</p></blockquote>
<p>At any rate, the rally did attract less people this time and maybe the leaflets weren&#8217;t the reason for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kornelij</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>Kornelij</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AAA!!! I will repost tomorrow the King-posters :)) It`s great. Now we need a Pope and thats all :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AAA!!! I will repost tomorrow the King-posters :)) It`s great. Now we need a Pope and thats all <img src='http://blog.oneworld.am/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/12/09/2008-presidential-election-monitor-15/#comment-1253</link>
		<dc:creator>Onnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blogian &lt;a href="http://blogian.hayastan.com/2007/12/09/monarchism-and-armenias-politics/" rel="nofollow"&gt;comments on the Levon VII photograph&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The poster in Armenian reads, “Levon VII: Armenian King,” with a reference to Cilician Armenia’s last king Levon (Leo) VI who found refuge in France as his Muslim foes destroyed the last Armenian kingdom.

It is quite ironic that the romantic nationalists who support Ter-Petrosyan call the former president a monarch, not realizing that the last thing Armenia needs is another king - which would be the case if either Levon Ter-Petrosyan or Serzh Sargsyan are elected. The Ter-Petrosyan “monarchship” was clearly demonstrated in the 1996 elections when he was celebrating his “victory” before the votes were even being counted. And I can almost guarantee to you a Serzh Sargsyan “victory” for the upcoming elections.

Armenia’s politics has never upset me as much as it does today. The more time passes the worse it becomes with former morons wanting to replace current morons.

And I think Armenia needs to change it constitution so that a president can only serve two terms in a lifetime. Otherwise, we may see lots of monarchs striving for return.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogian <a href="http://blogian.hayastan.com/2007/12/09/monarchism-and-armenias-politics/" rel="nofollow">comments on the Levon VII photograph</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The poster in Armenian reads, “Levon VII: Armenian King,” with a reference to Cilician Armenia’s last king Levon (Leo) VI who found refuge in France as his Muslim foes destroyed the last Armenian kingdom.</p>
<p>It is quite ironic that the romantic nationalists who support Ter-Petrosyan call the former president a monarch, not realizing that the last thing Armenia needs is another king - which would be the case if either Levon Ter-Petrosyan or Serzh Sargsyan are elected. The Ter-Petrosyan “monarchship” was clearly demonstrated in the 1996 elections when he was celebrating his “victory” before the votes were even being counted. And I can almost guarantee to you a Serzh Sargsyan “victory” for the upcoming elections.</p>
<p>Armenia’s politics has never upset me as much as it does today. The more time passes the worse it becomes with former morons wanting to replace current morons.</p>
<p>And I think Armenia needs to change it constitution so that a president can only serve two terms in a lifetime. Otherwise, we may see lots of monarchs striving for return.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>Armenian News, Analysis &#38; Photography &#8212; Oneworld Multimedia :: 2008 Presidential Election Monitor :: December :: 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] full post accompanied by photographs is available on the Armenia Election Monitor 2008.     Posted by Onnik @ 3:07 pm. Filed under: Armenia, Democracy, Politics, Blogging, Caucasus, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] full post accompanied by photographs is available on the Armenia Election Monitor 2008.     Posted by Onnik @ 3:07 pm. Filed under: Armenia, Democracy, Politics, Blogging, Caucasus, [&#8230;]</p>
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