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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/09/25/reactions-to-ter-petrosians-speech/#comment-773</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's be realistic. Why kocharian's response was so hysterical? Threats? He will be treated as a regular opposition.... jailed? attacked? arrested? what does that mean? why would Kocharian care? He is retiring. As a "president" his only obligation and goal in this elections should be securing free and fair elections, that's it!!! Kochrian and serj are not even in the same polytical party. Why boss was so nervous? I think you all know the answer, but for those who do not, I will spell it out. Kocharian was nervous, because he knows, whoever comes to power besides Serj, he and many of his mafiozis are going to jail immidietly. Who else will let Kocharian to digest his 2.5 billion dollars which he and his family earned during the power uzurpation, except Serj Sarkissian? And the new President does not have to be Ter-Petrosian. ANYONE who comes to power, has to send Kocharian and his clan to jail. It's just Ter-Petrosian is more dangerous, because his chances to win are almost for sure. Look how the population is greeting him. Watch what will happen in Armenia, when he declares his candidacy officially. The PRESIDENT is coming back !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be realistic. Why kocharian&#8217;s response was so hysterical? Threats? He will be treated as a regular opposition&#8230;. jailed? attacked? arrested? what does that mean? why would Kocharian care? He is retiring. As a &#8220;president&#8221; his only obligation and goal in this elections should be securing free and fair elections, that&#8217;s it!!! Kochrian and serj are not even in the same polytical party. Why boss was so nervous? I think you all know the answer, but for those who do not, I will spell it out. Kocharian was nervous, because he knows, whoever comes to power besides Serj, he and many of his mafiozis are going to jail immidietly. Who else will let Kocharian to digest his 2.5 billion dollars which he and his family earned during the power uzurpation, except Serj Sarkissian? And the new President does not have to be Ter-Petrosian. ANYONE who comes to power, has to send Kocharian and his clan to jail. It&#8217;s just Ter-Petrosian is more dangerous, because his chances to win are almost for sure. Look how the population is greeting him. Watch what will happen in Armenia, when he declares his candidacy officially. The PRESIDENT is coming back !</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/09/25/reactions-to-ter-petrosians-speech/#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator>Onnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazarian, 2003 election.</description>
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		<title>By: Armine</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/09/25/reactions-to-ter-petrosians-speech/#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator>Armine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is a will, there is a way. Finding a democracy-prone, open-minded, and public-oriented president and like-minded inner circle among Armenians doesn’t appear to be a problem. With the political and financial backing that both the authorities and all of the opposition leaders in Armenia receive, there’d be no problem to bring responsible, public-spirited leaders to the fore. The problem is that there is no will on the part of those evil supra-national forces who, among other things, prepare younger generations of political leaders, to find someone with these characteristics. Such people are largely unwanted: they tend to be less susceptible to political control considering it repulsive to human dignity. That’s why parochial, illiberal autocrats like Serzhik or Robik, or bought and paid-for opposition leaders are in greater demand. The preference for this type of rulers, unfortunately, puts domestic and regional political stability over people’s desire for well-being, promotion of democratic values and civil rights.  Eternal issue: good vs. evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is a will, there is a way. Finding a democracy-prone, open-minded, and public-oriented president and like-minded inner circle among Armenians doesn’t appear to be a problem. With the political and financial backing that both the authorities and all of the opposition leaders in Armenia receive, there’d be no problem to bring responsible, public-spirited leaders to the fore. The problem is that there is no will on the part of those evil supra-national forces who, among other things, prepare younger generations of political leaders, to find someone with these characteristics. Such people are largely unwanted: they tend to be less susceptible to political control considering it repulsive to human dignity. That’s why parochial, illiberal autocrats like Serzhik or Robik, or bought and paid-for opposition leaders are in greater demand. The preference for this type of rulers, unfortunately, puts domestic and regional political stability over people’s desire for well-being, promotion of democratic values and civil rights.  Eternal issue: good vs. evil.</p>
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		<title>By: nazarian</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/09/25/reactions-to-ter-petrosians-speech/#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator>nazarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Kocharian threaten to pull Ter-Petrosian's ears as he did to the other presidential candidates in the 2004 elections? He seems to either be crude or have some psychological issues - can't make a speech without threatening. 

Does Kocharian still claim to be the only man in Armenia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Kocharian threaten to pull Ter-Petrosian&#8217;s ears as he did to the other presidential candidates in the 2004 elections? He seems to either be crude or have some psychological issues - can&#8217;t make a speech without threatening. </p>
<p>Does Kocharian still claim to be the only man in Armenia?</p>
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		<title>By: 2008 Presidential Election Monitor &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Allies Confident Ter Petrosian Will Run</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/09/25/reactions-to-ter-petrosians-speech/#comment-755</link>
		<dc:creator>2008 Presidential Election Monitor &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Allies Confident Ter Petrosian Will Run</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] likely comeback and his much publicized speech. In particular, the papers view that, along with Kocharian&#8217;s rebuttal and counter attack, in ways that represent their political orientation. No surprise there, then, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] likely comeback and his much publicized speech. In particular, the papers view that, along with Kocharian&#8217;s rebuttal and counter attack, in ways that represent their political orientation. No surprise there, then, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/09/25/reactions-to-ter-petrosians-speech/#comment-751</link>
		<dc:creator>Onnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've left a comment on &lt;a href="http://ditord.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/reactions-to-levon-ter-petrossians-speech/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Observer's post&lt;/a&gt; which I'm also including below.

&lt;blockquote&gt;You know, not that I want to back Ter Petrosian in this, but some issues should now be raised after Kocharian’s response, I think.

First of all, why on earth did abandon his native Karabakh to become prime minister under Ter Petrosian in 1997 given that the 96 election was falsified, why did he breach the constitution to run in the 98 election, did he not only inherit the system of corruption and take it to new heights and so on. I also think Kocharian could publicly acknowledge that he should never have allowed the sale of ArmenTel to the Greeks as well, and so on.

Also, I don’t think you can compare state budgets in a transitional former Soviet republic ten years apart. Perhaps if it was 4 years after a change of power, but not 10 years. Of course, it’s true that the budget has been increased significantly since 2003, however, although as Observer has questioned on this blog recently, how has that been achieved and what is the true worth of that increase given the appreciation of the dram and what some believe to be “hidden” inflation.

All that said, though, if Kocharian’s response can be seen to be infantile, Ter Petrosian’s can be criticized as well. As Vazgen Manoukian and others have said, rather than attack the government for pretty much the same crimes that can be said about his own regime, he could have at least shown some remorse and apologized. However, he didn’t, and I think that shows a breathtaking arrogance.

Still, with the first and second presidents openly attacking each other, perhaps this can now encourage a real analysis and debate about both their administrations and where Armenia is as a country. I thought it interesting, for example, how Artmika wrote in his post that he favors continuity, stability and the status quo. As I said, this might be a very interesting discussion to watch unfold, and one that might force some real debate between candidates, including from Sarkisian.

Regarding what Armine says, it is unfortunate, however, that what we might be seeing is a struggle between candidates who were both part of the system in the 1990s and who perhaps offer nothing different to the system in place today. Likewise, it is also unfortunate that we have no clear alternative opposition candidate in sight who might be able to take on Sarkisian thanks to petty rivalry and personal ambitions in the opposition ranks as well as in civil society.

Artur Baghdasarian and Raffi Hovannisian’s parties represent the new opposition — and one that is fresher and has more potential than we had in 2003. Yet, once again, we seem to be looking at the same old stagnant names who have already lost all credibility with the electorate. The system, perhaps, will continue to replicate itself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve left a comment on <a href="http://ditord.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/reactions-to-levon-ter-petrossians-speech/" rel="nofollow">Observer&#8217;s post</a> which I&#8217;m also including below.</p>
<blockquote><p>You know, not that I want to back Ter Petrosian in this, but some issues should now be raised after Kocharian’s response, I think.</p>
<p>First of all, why on earth did abandon his native Karabakh to become prime minister under Ter Petrosian in 1997 given that the 96 election was falsified, why did he breach the constitution to run in the 98 election, did he not only inherit the system of corruption and take it to new heights and so on. I also think Kocharian could publicly acknowledge that he should never have allowed the sale of ArmenTel to the Greeks as well, and so on.</p>
<p>Also, I don’t think you can compare state budgets in a transitional former Soviet republic ten years apart. Perhaps if it was 4 years after a change of power, but not 10 years. Of course, it’s true that the budget has been increased significantly since 2003, however, although as Observer has questioned on this blog recently, how has that been achieved and what is the true worth of that increase given the appreciation of the dram and what some believe to be “hidden” inflation.</p>
<p>All that said, though, if Kocharian’s response can be seen to be infantile, Ter Petrosian’s can be criticized as well. As Vazgen Manoukian and others have said, rather than attack the government for pretty much the same crimes that can be said about his own regime, he could have at least shown some remorse and apologized. However, he didn’t, and I think that shows a breathtaking arrogance.</p>
<p>Still, with the first and second presidents openly attacking each other, perhaps this can now encourage a real analysis and debate about both their administrations and where Armenia is as a country. I thought it interesting, for example, how Artmika wrote in his post that he favors continuity, stability and the status quo. As I said, this might be a very interesting discussion to watch unfold, and one that might force some real debate between candidates, including from Sarkisian.</p>
<p>Regarding what Armine says, it is unfortunate, however, that what we might be seeing is a struggle between candidates who were both part of the system in the 1990s and who perhaps offer nothing different to the system in place today. Likewise, it is also unfortunate that we have no clear alternative opposition candidate in sight who might be able to take on Sarkisian thanks to petty rivalry and personal ambitions in the opposition ranks as well as in civil society.</p>
<p>Artur Baghdasarian and Raffi Hovannisian’s parties represent the new opposition — and one that is fresher and has more potential than we had in 2003. Yet, once again, we seem to be looking at the same old stagnant names who have already lost all credibility with the electorate. The system, perhaps, will continue to replicate itself.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/09/25/reactions-to-ter-petrosians-speech/#comment-750</link>
		<dc:creator>Onnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, the Turkish Daily News also &lt;a href="http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=84082" rel="nofollow"&gt;makes reference&lt;/a&gt; to Ter Petrosian in a recent article published a day after his speech.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Observations of Hrant Bagratian, who served between 1993-1996 as one of the few prime ministers with the longest tenure of the post-Soviet Armenia, were noteworthy. [...] With Bagratian, I talked about the return of Levon Ter Petrosyan, first Armenian president and a pro-solution liberal, to politics. Approaches of Ter Petrosyan, a potential candidate for the presidential election in 2008, to the Karabakh issue and the Armenia-Turkey relations are well known. I had the impression from Bagratian that these approaches are getting unambiguous. For instance, I took notice that regarding the Armenian question there will be no claim for land and indemnities, the diaspora's intervener attitude will be balanced and dialogue will be developed with the Turkish public opinion. All these without renouncing the demand for the recognition of the Armenian genocide. Ter Petrosyan's stance is a key for the sake of discussions in Turkey and Armenia, even if he is not elected president.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=84082</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, the Turkish Daily News also <a href="http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=84082" rel="nofollow">makes reference</a> to Ter Petrosian in a recent article published a day after his speech.</p>
<blockquote><p>Observations of Hrant Bagratian, who served between 1993-1996 as one of the few prime ministers with the longest tenure of the post-Soviet Armenia, were noteworthy. [&#8230;] With Bagratian, I talked about the return of Levon Ter Petrosyan, first Armenian president and a pro-solution liberal, to politics. Approaches of Ter Petrosyan, a potential candidate for the presidential election in 2008, to the Karabakh issue and the Armenia-Turkey relations are well known. I had the impression from Bagratian that these approaches are getting unambiguous. For instance, I took notice that regarding the Armenian question there will be no claim for land and indemnities, the diaspora&#8217;s intervener attitude will be balanced and dialogue will be developed with the Turkish public opinion. All these without renouncing the demand for the recognition of the Armenian genocide. Ter Petrosyan&#8217;s stance is a key for the sake of discussions in Turkey and Armenia, even if he is not elected president.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=84082" rel="nofollow">http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=84082</a></p>
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		<title>By: Oneworld Multimedia :: Reactions to Ter Petrosian&#8217;s Speech :: September :: 2007</title>
		<link>http://blog.oneworld.am/2007/09/25/reactions-to-ter-petrosians-speech/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>Oneworld Multimedia :: Reactions to Ter Petrosian&#8217;s Speech :: September :: 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] full post is available on the 2008 Presidential Election Monitor Blog.     Posted by Onnik @ 12:07 am. Filed under: Armenia, Democracy, Politics, Caucasus, Elections, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] full post is available on the 2008 Presidential Election Monitor Blog.     Posted by Onnik @ 12:07 am. Filed under: Armenia, Democracy, Politics, Caucasus, Elections, [&#8230;]</p>
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